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back. that was senator dick durbin of illinois who voted for the simpson/bowles plan and today he served on the commission and voted for the proposal. i'll say it again and again even though it includes significant entitlement cuts and he as a democrat doesn't like that. the upcoming december 31st deadline, the so-called cliff, anything from that fiscal cliff to that fiscal slope. liberals are saying to that austerity bomb that progressive people don't like at all. former senator alan simpson proposed a plan to get the united states financial house in order that some say was our best shot at solvency. and avoiding the mess that awaits us come december 31st. senator simpson, it's always an honor. politics, i know you understand the irony of politics, it makes strange bedfellows. i want to try something by you. the president wants a deal. the president would obviously like to include something on revenues. the conservatives may not want to go along with that. but if it will include something on revenues. the best push is coming from people i don't normally side with like tom donohue
, there's also hand wringing over what senator dick durbin said in the speech at the center for american progress and we have this, dick durbin, not what he said but didn't say and preparled remarks he said progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of the social security, medicare and medicaid but those conversations should not be a part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff and prepared remarks. he didn't say that in the speech. you have a lot of republicans on the -- excuse me, democrats on the left greatly concerned about what will happen to medicare and quite honestly not ready to put that conversation on the table. >> well, i think that's correct. you're speaking about a certain percentage of democrats. i would include in that list bernie sander who is sent out an e-mail blast today saying medicare, medicare and social security should all be off the table. now, in reality, i think social security really can be and should be off the table because it's not a contributor to the federal deficit. it's well funded for decades ahead but if you look a
is this this is an interesting comment. dick durbin has been on the show and he's so rational and open to compromise. he was open to closing loopholes and not raising rates. he's a rational man, and he said yesterday that democrats shouldn't be talking about cutting social security. here he is. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. it's a separate funded operation. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing, so those who say don't touch it or change it are ignoring the obvious. >> will democrats have the courage to make serious cuts to medicare and not two years over ten years? >> first of all, i think there's a serious cut, and a lot of people that say that people would defer it. >> i'm not implying it's not a serious cut. i'm sorry. i meant you had to do it over a smaller period of time. >> right. i understand. but i want to go back to senator durbin's point. if you want to do something social security, do it. leave social security in the debt aside for the moment, because it doesn't drive debt. i think senator durbin is right on that. they have to negotiat
principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the cliff. because the cliff is president obama's and the congressional democrats leverage over republicans. if we do go off the cliff or the curb on january 1st, a republican nightmare will occur. all income tax rates will go up and defense spending will be cut by 600 billion. other spending, some of it dear to republicans, will also be cut by another 600 billion. the fiscal cliff is much scarier to republicans than it is to democrats. so, the president and his allies must continue to make republicans believe they are willing to go off cliff
that is reached before the end of the year. >> this morning, dick durbin didn't really want to get into specifics. you aren't hearing a lot of numbers from a lot of people, but did say he was encouraged. take a listen. >> if i sound bland and general at this point, it's exactly to the point he made. when the doors close and we sit down with revenue on one side, entitlements on the other, then we get specific and come up with a bipartisan plan. >> ryan, to susan's point of who is the president talking to, is this something to be hashed out between president obama and john boehner. >> i guess so. because dick durbin himself has been confusing in what he's been saying publicly. on sunday he said sure medicare and medicaid can be part of the discussion. today he's giving a speech where it should not be part of the conversation. there this morning he's saying once we get into a room, we can start talking about it. and there are ways that i think liberals would agree to do medicare and medicaid. you know, if you're tinkering on the supplier side like, you know, say medical device companies or something
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groups of voters. >> and what about on cuts, james, this is an interesting comment. dick durbin has been on this show, he's such a rational person that seems so open to compromise. he was open to closing loopholes but not raising rates, he's looked for cuts. he's a rational man in many ways. he said yesterday the democrats should not be talking about cutting social security. here he is. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation. medicare's another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if question do nothing. those who say, don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> democrats have the courage to make serious cuts to medicare. >> first of all. i think it's a serious cut. a lot of people that tell you that would defer it. >> i'm not implying it's not a serious cut, i'm sorry, i just meant you would have to do it over a smaller period of time. >> right, i understand, but i want to go back to senator durbin's point, if you want to do something about social security, do something about social security. but leave
: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: mr. durbin: mr. president? the presiding officer: senator from illinois, the assistant leader. mr. durbin: i ask that the quorum call be suspended. officer without objection. mr. durbin: we are in the process of considering the ratification of the convention on the rights of persons with disabilities. the united states has led the world in creating the legal framework building an infrastructure and designing facilities that ensure inclusion and opportunities for those living with disabilities. this year the senate foreign relations committee under the leadership of chairman john kerry and ranking minority member richard lugar celebrateds the it 22nd anniversary of the act by reporting on the rights of persons with disabilities on a strong bipartisan basis. i want to personally thank senator kerry and senator lugar for moving the treaty through the committee process. it was -- the treaty through the committee process. it was a hectic time. they made a point of making certain that we brought this issue forward. personal thanks to my friend, senato
. this is what it's all about. the money. who is going to get it? senator dick durbin. a little more specific today. he said progressives, that would be you and me, should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of medicare and medicaid but those conversations should not be part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. democrats are prepared to discuss reforms to medicare and medicaid, but not right now. fox news tried to get budget committee chair member congressman chris van hollen to agree to the changes. van hollen stood firm. >> if you prolong the program, people are living longer, isn't that age outvoted? >> there are a lot better ways to have doing it? >> you're not willing to change the age? >> no. because there are much better ways of dealing with medicare costs. >> it's just so heart warming that somebody on fox news thinks i'm going to live a little longer. social security is off the table. white house press secretary jay ke kearney kiss missed any changes saying it's not, it is not the driver of the deficit. this is a step in the right direction for more than 5
, it is offered up now, dick durbin is still talking about how they call it reform. they're cutting it, cutting it, cutting medicaid, unquestionably, that has been offered every single time and they'll cut it. they are going to lower corporate taxes. the president agrees as i just showed you set in stone, they are going to lower corporate taxes. then, they're also going to cult the home mortgage deduction. there are some open questions about that including the home mortgage deduction. what's still on the line? this morning as we're cooking this segment up, i put up social security, something i've been talking about a long time. we don't know if they're going to cut social security. that's less clear than medicare and medicaid. good news on that front today dick durbin coming out and saying the house democrats and inoperable president obama told republicans social security for the purposes of this negotiation is off the table. if they go back on that, it will be nuclear. ok? so that's -- it looks like hey we might have saved social security, great fighters like bernie sanders fought really hard to
dick durbin was over at the senator for american progress yesterday and he made it very, very clear that when the word entitlement reform is used or the phrase, there's one thing it should not include. here's senator durbin. >> i think we should take social security off the table for the current fiscal cliff and deficit discussion but be very honest about what we're going to achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of a simpson bowles commission for social security and give them eight months to a year, a directive to come up with a plan to buy 75 years of solvency for social security. >> bill: social security is really a different issue isn't it? >> absolutely. it is. i would agree with senator durbin absolutely. i'll give you a reform in medicare i think democrats would support. and that is looking at prescription drugs. and making it more competitive. >> bill: amen. >> or really crackening down on the fraud that takes place through the medical devices which is not with individuals c
dick durbin says medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations, but insist social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things, and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing willingness for reform -- >> can we talk about that for a second? >> i don't want to repeat what you said. >> it's bull hockey. >> that's not what you said. >> this whole thing has been a complete farce for years. there's no trust fund. they raided that a long time ago. but the bigger point, i will because you know what? my heart has grown like the grinch's since thanksgiving. i have so much to be thankful for. >> it's been growing ever since election day, basically. >> so i'm going to be kind. first of all, senator durbin deserves respect on this front because he
, those facts make forging a deal structurally very difficult. on monday senator dick durbin admitted what we've been hearing behind the scenes. very little has been accomplished on negotiations on the staff level. >> now for ten days not much has happened. there's been a big thanksgiving break. a lot of turkey and stuffing. but now let's get back to business. >> although the white house said they remain optimistic, there doesn't appear to be a plan for another leadership meeting until progress is made between the white house team negotiating a deal that's led by secretary geithner but the house republicans, specifically in boehner's shop. in the meantime, to create the appearance of momentum behind his plan, the president is stepping up his schedule, will hold a meeting today. the white house, 15 small business owners from the retail health care transportation and construction sectors. tomorrow ceos for the second time in two weeks go into the white house. middle class americans from around the country who the white house says will suffer if no deal is done also come to the white house we
've really got to be willing to as dick durbin said, to sit down and negotiate. >> those were senators dick durbin on "morning joe" and jeanne shaheen on chris jansing discussing entitlement programs. richard and joy, how much leverage does president obama have with the left in terms of making a deal with republicans on medicaid, medicare, social security? >> none. he never does. are you kidding? the left will be disappointed like the day after inauguration day. at the end of the day -- it's kind of a subversive thought but we just had wealthy seniors, seniors in general, vote to get rid of medicare, right? they voted to get rid of medicare as long as no one touched them. if there's some changes that need to be made to the medicare ben fits of wealthy seniors i don't think democrats should make that the hill they die on. that's me. i think democrats are still going to want entitlement programs held harmless. that is true for medicaid and social security. there are things you can theoretically do in terms of raising the cap on how much income is taxed for medicare. things that wouldn't hurt
's talk about senator dick durbin and president obama's pledged to richard trumka and randi weingarten about no cuts in spending. we don't think to talk about -- demonize them. our center dick durbin and president obama have made it clear they will accept no spending cuts. they made this clear to the union chief. -- our senator from illinois dick durbin. host: what should republicans do or not do? our last caller said republicans should be willing to go over the cliff, it necessary. caller: we should shut the government down, if they cannot agree to any spending cuts. we will be coming up to the debt limit again. they should shut the government down. we will see how the government runs without all these extra programs. senator coburn has identified all the duplication and waste in the government. it is ridiculous that they don't even talk about that. host: senator durban from illinois, let's look and his comments on abc yesterday. he is talking about what democrats would be willing to do to avoid the fiscal cliff. [video clip] >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not
durbin, democratic senator from illinois. he is very close to the president. he is introduced him at every major political event since he came into public office from illinois. he will have a press conference today. he is going to make a speech that says medicare and medicaid should be looked at but not part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. so if that is the case you change that at all right now? >> let me say this. i know that we have people out posturing and again we have all kind of folks that just want to sweep this under the rug and let the problem get even bigger. the fact is the two most important people are the president and speaker boehner. both of them in the beginning of this have shown a degree of flexibility. what we need to do, people like myself offer concrete solutions to solve this problem. when they get in their meeting they need to have these at their disposal and we as a country again need to go ahead and deal with this issue now. i know that senator durbin actually has shown some strength for what it's worth, i don't know what he will do today in his press co
dick durbin generally considered on the left of his party, he's saying, nobody should be so naive as to believe that just taxing the rich will solve our problems. he's telling the left that entitlement cuts must be part of any deal. that put him outside of what i have been hearing from the unions, mainstream democrats and the president. maybe that is a slight chink in the democrats' armor, if you like. maybe they will consider entitlement cuts. maybe he means next year after you work out tax changes now. bill: that's the way i heard it. get the changes before the first of the year then worry about reform in the coming year. on top of that there is a debt ceiling issue to tackle. steve forbes said go ahead and get a 90-day extension, take it into 2013. >> can you put together a complex agreement dealing with tax, spending cuts, debt ceiling, can you do all of that in a mere 30 days or do you take the steve forbes route, kick the can down the road. i'm not sure the vote terse would tolerate kicking the can and not dealing with it again. thank you, stuart. martha: you have got senate
the company. some entilement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator dig durbin, but thinks that social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, smaller things played out long-term that give it solvency. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want, but if president reagan and speaker o'neill could get a deal, president obama and speaker boehner should as well. >> harris: let's hope that's true. thank you. right now, a child missing, city on edge and volunteers going door-to-door to try to find young dylan. also, no longer a mysteries, but an official cause. we now know why a strip club blew up and more than 40 buildings and homes including a day care center were heavily damaged. debris for blocks. and we'll check with the firefighters injured trying to save lives. and can it get any bigger? the powerball lottery mightier and millions of americans buying tickets. are you playing? stay close. with verizon. hurry in this s
to congratulate you for voting for simpson/bowles. you and people like dick durbin, i have tremendous respect for you to stick your neck out and say something a lot of politicians won't do. it isn't perfect, but it's where we have to go. thank you so much for coming on. senator tom coburn, who, again, my kids seem to love for some reason. thank you very much for coming on, and joe klein of "time" magazine. >>> up next, can president obama turn his voters into fighters? this will be fascinating. i found out how great the ground game was in florida. can he put this ground game to work to fight the fiscal cliff? the "hardball" story on that one is coming up right now, the place for politics. ts and hasbro trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> "the new york times" has just listed "jack kennedy: elusive hero," my book, on the best-seller list. it's a big honor for the paperback edition. it's a great book of american heroism, the story of jack kennedy, who he w
're making my point. where is the conversation about cutting, dir dick durbin, harry reid? >> the president sold a lie. the lie is you can have these goodies and it will be paid for if you tax the rich for more. that's economic nonsense. i want to give you one number. the unfunded liability of medicare, one entitlement program, is $42 trillion. that's money that we've got to shell out in the future, which we do not have. are you going to tell me we could tax the rich? >> i am not telling you, but this is what i'm saying, that the tax reform and entitlement reform should and could be a bigger part of this conversation, however to focus on the republicans now at this point i think is chasing a rabbit down a hole. it is not the republicans' responsibility to come up with a plan. president obama won fair and square. he's the won who needs to persuade america that the policy is right. >> sean: we have the exact same situation as we had before. all this money was spent, all the arguing over -- >> the house passed all sorts of bill to improve the economy in the last congress. you don't get anywher
the country that mobilize to try and stop cuts. the number two senate democrat, dick durbin, says he'd be open to look at entitlements, but not part of the fiscal cliff talks. here is the senate majority leader's view. >> at the meeting we had that i mentioned with president and the four leaders, president obama said that social security is not part of what is what we're going to do in this. i agree with him. and there are things that i personally believe there are things that we can do with entitlements that don't hurt beneficiaries. >> but if you have each side starting to take things off the table, it makes you wonder if at some point if gets harder to make a deal. shep. >> shepard: mike emmanuel on capitol hill. the white house and president obama will be making their case to regular americans this week. republican leaders say he should be negotiating, not campaigning. he's not the only politician planning a fiscal cliff road trip. we'll go to the white house and the fox report coming up in a bit. first, hours ago, more than 200,000 people crowded into the central square in cairo to call f
democrats like rockefeller, dick durbin and others saying hey, we better not touch entitlements. mr. president, you better watch yourself because we won the election. let's focus on those taxes on the rich. let's deal with entitlement down the line. that scares me. that is unrealistic. it goes against what we heard the president of the united states say. >> dana: when it comes to the math, do the math, they have a good opportunity in front of them. >> we heard senator reid said when asked he couldn't name any of the cut the democrats are willing to offer in the fiscal cliff negotiations. he said, "we need to get credit for cuts previously made." this is today. the cut previously made. i'm scratching my head to figure out what cuts the democrats made prior that they want credit for. if they did make credit cuts why did we run up four more years in a row? start fresh right now. talk about cuts and then talk about how are we going to raise revenues. >> eric: what would -- >> dana: what would harry reid mean by that? get credit on cuts they made. on what? >> bob: that is a $60,000 quest
with dick durbin who came on the show because eric said, okay, we'll do deals on taxes, but you brought up capital gains tax, no. carried interest, no. raising the actual marginal rates, no, we don't want to do that yet when he left we got calls from democrats saying does he really want to make a deal? >> i got two yesterday that -- >> i got e-mails from democrats going wow, he sounds like he wants to make a deal. one senator said did he really mean what he said? considering that he said nothing, yeah, i guess so but it was the tone then yesterday dick durbin came on and we had to basically stop asking about medicare about three or four minutes in because it was nonsensical talking about creating new programs. but this is a guy that also supporting simpson bowles and let us know like eric, we'll make a deal and figure it out. >> both sides at various times tells you something about recent history. you think about where republicans were a year and a half ago, where their attitude was, no, we will not discuss revenues, not one penny, ever, ever, ever so for cantor to say, of course, we'll di
insurance. so we need to find ways to reserve these programs. >> senator durbin is suggesting the debate over the entitlement programs should be waged after the new year once the fiscal cliff issue has been settled. >>> six minutes past the hour, new storms rolling into the northwest this morning. and that could cause dangerous flooding. alexandra steele is live in atlanta for us. what's going on? >> hey, good morning to you guys. we've got one storm that's gone and one storm that's a massive storm incoming. so let's start with this, all you guys in new york city had snow, for sure, but right now we certainly don't. this has all moved offshore. this was just the rain, but what was left behind? actually black ice there this morning. places like new jersey, six inches of snow. chester, new jersey, five. you can see sunbury, pennsylvania, three. 2 1/2 in mill brooke. the hudson valley and portions of connecticut are seeing black ice as a factor. take it slow, especially the elevated surfaces with temperatures so cold. story number one. story number two, a mammoth storm, this is the water va
because when he sat there with dick durbin -- he said, grover, i am not really for tax increases. i and just putting tax increases on the table here and durbin is giving me all of these spending cuts and i have not agreed to anything. i just talk about tax increases. i said -- senator, do you think it is possible durbin goes back to the democratic caucus and says i am putting these imaginary spending cuts on the table -- and he is giving me the tax increases. tom coburn from oklahoma said he would never be that dishonest. senator, i think he is and i think you are not. and i think he takes you seriously and i think you should not take him seriously. but again, they spend more than a year putting a the simpson- bowles commission, which, if you have seen a, a slide presentation, an outline, it is in haiku, the only numbers and the page numbers. it is a series of interesting things. there are specific about the tax burden going up by -- $5 trillion in tax increases. as ryan reads this as a trillion dollars in tax increases from eliminating or reducing deductions and exemptions and so o
.m. majority whip dick durbin will talk about the so-called fiscal cliff and deficit reduction at the center for american progress. fiscal cliff, a combination of those expiring tax provisions and budget cuts that could take place the beginning of the new you. they include the bush-era tax cuts and sequestration. live coverage starts at 1130 eastern also on c-span. we are likely to about the fiscal cliff during the senate session today getting underway at 10 a.m. eastern, just over a half hour from now. after the gavel and majority leader reid will be recognized to speak and will likely outlined the schedule for the day which could include debate on defense programs and policy, and possibly legislation to do with equal rights, people with disabilities. centers will us from 12:30-2:15 eastern for weeks the party meetings. live coverage of the senate and members gavel in right here on c-span2. right now some debate from the floor of the senate yesterday between majority leader reid and republican leader mitch mcconnell. d, w they talkede about potentialit't changes to filibuster rules. here's
. tomorrow senator dick durbin will bill what's major address to lay out the progressive case for a bipartisan deal and later this week the second white house meeting with meetings from both sides of the aisle. joining us is our post tag team bill russert and bloomberg's stephanie ruhle. she rules. unwrap that for us, brother. >> well, they would say the good news is that there has been some movement from senate republicans on the issue of raising taxes. lindsey graham, saxby chambless talking about a tax revenue. medicare, medicaid, perhaps we could have some meaningful entitlement reform. that's the good news, that there seems to be this idea that we can work out a big partisan deal. we both know taxes going up. entitlement, benefits going down. however, when we get into the bad news is that while this is all fine and dandy coming out of the cincinnati, toure. the real negotiations are going to happen between president obama and house speaker john boehner. it's a lot different animal than the senate gop conference. so that's the sort of bad news. while we hear a lot of this
you for voting for simpson bowles. you and people like dick durbin, i have tremendous respect for you to stick your neck out and say something a lot of politicians won't do. it isn't perfect but it's where we have to go. thank you so much for coming on. senator tom coburn, who again my kids seem to love for some reason. thank you very much for coming on, and joe klein of "time" magazine. >>> up next, can president obama turn his voters into fighters? this will be fascinating. i found out how great the ground game was in florida. can he put this ground game to work to fight the fiscal cliff? the "hardball" story on that one is coming up right now, the place for politics. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pro. good choice. go national. go like a pro. >>> the noshlts has just listed jack kennedy elusive hero moon the best-seller list. it's
signs. here is democratic senator dick durbin today speaking about the possibility of a deal on the fiscal cliff. take a listen. >> pick up any of the hill newspapers and look for the full-page ads. basically saying to the left, keep your hands off the entitlements and to the right, keep your hands off of taxes. well, if both sides heed those warnings, nothing will happen. >> congressman, he's right, isn't he? >> of course he's right. and, you know, we have this new book about thomas jefferson and this new movie about abraham lincoln and that great robert carroll book about lyndon johnson. these were people whose greatness came from understanding that the art -- that compromise is the art of politics. that sometimes you have to get your hands dirty. you have to take things into your own hands in terms of negotiating, making deals, compromising things that you know have to be done for the greater good. the greater good is to put this country onto a path of stable financial security. this can be done, but we have to be willing to negotiate, to compromise, and to put aside the p
have people, thoughtful members like my old bass, senator dick durbin, saying that everything is on the table but without being specific about it, because they'll do that behind closed doors as they should, frankly. so, yes, i think the left has a tacit sort of acknowledgment that, yes, in fact, there are going to be some painful things that we have to swallow on the left-hand side of the aisle. we should. if the right's going to separate increases, we should accept certain things like testing, et cetera, because at the end of the day this is about compromise. this is also very much, thomas, about the president's ability to show leadership. you hear the republicans harp on and on about obama not showing leadership. they did it before the campaign, during the campaign, and now they're saying, mr. president, we need you to show some leadership. accept tax rate increases without forcing his own party to accept other things on our side. both sides have to share the pain to get the budget balanced and promote this theory of economic fairness. that's what he's doing out there. >> co
and durbin willing to do that and will nor liberal democrats come to the table with entitlement reform. we'll see if that is a bigger dynamic that changes this week. >> what is the danger i guess is one question because there are democrats like patty murray saying it isn't a cliff, it is a slope. >> the danger is a massive sudden drop in government spending and even if you hate government spending, spending does keep the economy going and when you cut that much spending all at once abruptly you create a shock to the economy and that is dangerous and there are economists that say it could send us into recession again. >> it is not going to happen immediately on january 1st is their point. >> the alternative perspective is if you believe in preserving entitlements, social security, an eventual deal, a real deal, how much different would it really look from what is on the table with the fiscal cliff? >> that's a good question. let me read to you what congressman peter difazoo told politico. if the republicans can't see their way to significant additional revenues target to the people who are
. senator dick durbin, democrat from illinois, weighed in on abc's "this week." >> from my side of the table, bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security sed aside. doesn't add to the deficit. but when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program but give it solvency for more and more years. >> congressman bill pascrell is a democrat from new jersey. thank you for talking with us. >> soledad, how are you this morning? >> i'm really well, thank you. i've had many, many days off. what are the democrats willing to give? you heard dick durbin there. tick off for me and be specific, what are democrats willing to give on in this negotiation? >> well, i think the senator's absolutely correct, we need to compromise. there's no question about that. and we will not, however, in any way, shape or form, jeopardize the planned benefits for social security. i mean that's kind of installed in the american people. we changed social security over the years in order to meet the demands that the program insists upon. we will do that. but we'll do that in a biparti
for that in these negotiations that take place. >> senator durbin said he thinks that president obama won't include a deal - [inaudible] >> first of all, the debt ceiling. we would be foolish to work out something on stopping this from going over the cliff and then a month or six months later the republicans pull the same game as they did before and say we aren't going to agree to increasing the debt ceiling. i agree with the president. it has to be a package deal. what was your other question? [inaudible question] >> there are things we have already taken care of, the first of april and take a look at that stuff. that's not essential. [inaudible question] >> we can't do anything with the disaster aid package and i'm told it will be tomorrow or the next day. [inaudible question] >> republican, ok. you said what's holding it up? i said republicans. talk to the republicans. it's up to them. [inaudible question] >> i have said on a number of occasions the internet poker bill can move forward if we get 15, 17 republican votes. this stage, we have gotten none. >> you talked to the president over the weekend.
thing. but illinois democratic senator dick durbin doesn't want to touch social security. he thinks the new revenue should come from an increase on the tax rates of top earners, which is currently 35%. >> let the rates go up to 39. let us also take a look at the deductions. let's make sure that revenue is an integral part of deficit reduction. from my side of the table, bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security, set aside, doesn't add to the deficit. when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program, but give it solvency for more and more years. >> reporter: a source with engine of knowledge -- with knowledge of the negotiation says there is no date set in stone for the next meeting among the principle negotiate othe timing will depend on the progress of staff member, in the next few days. but we should not be surprised if they get together, sthiem week. shannon. >> shannon: we wish them much luck. thank you. our worst-case scenario, there isn't a deal. the former economics director it'll peter tracy, tells what did you say to expect
necessity bankrupt the country. >> some entitlement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator durbin but he thinks social security should be last alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. it is a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, now, played out long term that gives it solvency. >>peter: congressman king says no one will get what he wants but in president reagan and thomas "tip" o'neill could make a deal, so, too, should speaker boehner and president obama. >>gregg: and now the top people responsible for our defense, first, general petraeus resigning as head the c.i.a. amid scandal. there could also be big changes at the pentagon. as well at state department. whoever the president chooses, it could impact, for example, the use of armed drones taking out al qaeda overseas. and lots of other security matters. and now, a fox news contributeor and pollster joining us, and former senior advisor to senator john mccain. the use of the unmanned drones to take out terrorists who want to murder americans, on its face it should be a no-b
distance between republicans and democrats on this issue right now. >> stephanie: senator durbin said this yesterday. >> we're not going to find ourselves in some big party and then turn around and have a doomsday scenario as a debt ceiling. >> stephanie: are we or are they going to do some temporary fix and kick the can down the road? >> caller: well, i hope the debt ceiling is a part of it. the spending cuts, the across the board cuts, the so-called sequester, i think that will get kicked down the road. right now we can't afford to have significant reduction that will impede the economy. i think we need to take a little bit more careful approach to those kinds of cuts if we're going to talk about 1 trillion-dollar over ten years. so i suspect that can will get kicked down the road, but the tax rates really should be dealt with right now. they're easy to deal with. the debt ceiling should really be, that's one of those other things we can create a crisis unnecessarily. this country is not going to basically deny it's debt. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: so anyway, i think we can do
everything on the table. >> but when asked if he'd be willing to reform social security, senator durbin says social security doesn't add one penny to the debt. that it's a separately funded operation. one final note, the president was out shopping on saturday and when asked by a pool reporter if that was his part to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, the president said, come on, guys, we're just christmas shopping here. that's it from the white house. talks expected to continue this week. back to you. >> steve: let the games begin. douglas, thank you. >> gretchen: now to the rest of today's headlines, brand-new evidence that could have changed the outcome of the casey anthony murder trial. police in florida now admitting that they missed a google search done by someone in the anthony household. the search seems kind obvious. it was for the words, foolproof suffocation. the search done the same day two-year-old caylee anthony was last seen live. the mom acquitted of her daughter's murder, even her defense attorney says he was shocked this never came up in court. >> steve: meanwhile, it's like
that from the democrats. bill: interesting. dick durbin suggested perhaps they need to talk about this we'll see further on that from their side very soon. stuart, thank you. >> bill. bill: see you at 9:20 on fbn. stuart varney with us. here's martha. martha: big word reform, in taxes and entitlements. will that happen? senator graham is not the only republican that says he believes something needs to be done to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i think everybody should be on the table. i am myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact is the speaker and majority leader and president will be in a room trying to find the best package. i'm not going to prejudge it. saying we should not take ironclad positions. i have faith in john boehner putting together a good package. he is very conciliatory in his language. >> i do am opposed to raising tax rates but i do believe we can close loopholes. >> they have to go up real tax rates or effective tax rates. there are ways to do that. secondly we have to close significant loopholes. martha: all right. what are we hearing here? are he starting to hear a li
of the aisle. as we did under bowles-simpson put everything on the table. >> reporter: senator durbin, a top democrat in the senate says put everything on the table. though owe went on he is concerned about changes in medicare that might set off gaps in coverage, senior citizens not getting health care coverage. there you go. they're saying to put everything on the table but when you get in the details that's why they haven't come to a deal because the devil will be in the details, jenna. jenna: maybe they start with a salute and end with a handshake. ed, great to see you report great to see you. jenna: thank you very much. jon: several republican lawmakers are toning down their criticism of u.n. ambassador susan rice and her handling of the deadly attack on the consulate in libya. ambassador rice was under fire for appearances on the television immediately after the attack where she blamed it on the youtube video. many vocal critics, like senator john mccain are turning up the heat on president obama and the state department. >> the problem is the president of the united states in a debate
time ago. >> that's all i need to know. >>> tomorrow, tim pawlenty, illinois senator dick durbin and singer dionne warwick. >> great show. meanwhile, cnn "newsroom" with carol costello begins right now. >>> tear gas in cairo near the u.s. embassy as the fight for democracy goes on. >> face to face. susan rice and john mccain, the man who wanted watergate style hearings, meet. and only cnn catches up with mccain before the big meeting. >> what do you have to learn today from miss rice? >> whatever ambassador rice wants to tell me. she's the one who asked for the meeting. i didn't. >> wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall? >>> spyfall, real-life bond movie. yasser arafat's body was exhumed. was the palestinian leader po h poisoned by israeli spies? >>> plus this. >> you said walden is in trouble. >> i'm the trouble walden has been in, repeatedly. >> he calls it filth, the half in "two and a half men" begs you not to watch his show. "newsroom" starts now. >>> good morning to you. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. we begin with a high stakes meeting just m
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